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Da We Got This Covered

Aladdin 2 In Development At Disney, Will Follow Return Of Jafar

Disney’s tactic of remaking their classic animated movies in live-action might not always go down well with critics, but you can’t argue with those box office numbers. Analysts predict that The Lion King will hit big when it arrives next week, much as the Aladdin remake smashed through $900 million back in May. It’s not too surprising, then, that we’re hearing the House of Mouse is working on another Arabian night.
We Got This Covered has been told by sources close to the studio that Disney is developing an Aladdin 2. From what we understand, much of the cast from the first film is expected to return but given that the project is only in the earliest stages of development at present, it’s unclear whether Guy Ritchie will be back to direct the sequel. Our sources say that the plot will follow closely to The Return of Jafar though, the straight-to-video follow-up to the animated flick released in 1994.

As the title suggests, the sequel’s story saw the evil Grand Vizier-turned-Genie escape from the Cave of Wonders to wreak havoc on Agrabah once again. Honestly, the movie isn’t one of Disney’s finest hours, as the plot is pretty slight. But the filmmakers behind the new Aladdin could maybe just use the framework of the animated version to come up with something different – and not slavishly recreate the original for once.

All that being said, there might be one hiccup here. 2019’s Aladdin ended with the titular hero wishing for Genie to become human, with Will Smith’s character last seen sailing around the world with his new family. Genie’s magic powers are a major part of the franchise’s appeal, though, so they might have to come up with some way of putting him back into the lamp. Perhaps Jafar, who’s now a Genie himself, might change reality once again as part of his revenge?
In any case, while Disney has resisted the urge to turn their live-action remakes into franchises (apart from Alice in Wonderland and Maleficent, but those are slightly different cases), it looks like Aladdin might be the first one to get a sequel, and we’ll be sure to keep you posted as more about this potential second magic carpet ride comes to light.
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Che si parli di Aladdin 2 è vero. Che segua Il Ritorno di Jafar crediamo di no, almeno non fedelmente . Il film se si farà (devono vedere prima di tutto se funziona Maleficent 2 prima di dar il via ai vari sequel, già Il Libro della Giungla 2 è in stand by fino a quando non testano Maleficent 2, dopo il flop di Alice Attraverso lo Specchio ci vanno molto cauti), sarà ovviamente tra 5 o 6 anni (di solito per i sequel il tempo è quello, tra inventare la sceneggiatura, commissionare il film e tra impegni del cast e realizzazione tecnica e tutto, il tempo è di 5 o 6 anni, anche se non capiamo come mai ci mettano tanto, per le serie tv fanno da un anno all'altro, massimo si aspettano 2 anni ma poi ci sono, per i film spesso è sui 5/6 anni, anche i Marvel - Uomo Ragno a parte - hanno comunque un tot di tempo tra una pellicola dedicata a quel specifico supereroe e l'altra dedicata sempre allo stesso specifico supereroe) e crediamo che non seguiranno certo la trama de Il Ritorno di Jafar. Alcuni accenni potrebbero starci ma la storia sarà completamente nuova.
BennuzzO
L'ideale per me sarebbe proprio unire Il ritorno di Jafar e Aladdin e il Re dei Ladri! wub.gif
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Dal sito Disinsider:

Is a live-action Return of Jafar in the works?

Disney is reportedly working on a follow-up film to Guy Ritchie’s live-action Aladdin remake.

At this stage, the alleged project is just being called Aladdin 2, but according to We Got This Covered, the plot closely resembles that of the cult-classic The Return of Jafar – the 1994 direct-to-video animated sequel to Aladdin (1992).

We should stress at this stage that nothing has been officially confirmed by Disney bosses, but the rumors are definitely out there – so why don’t you just ruminate, while we illuminate the possibilities…

Say what you want about live-action Disney remakes, no one can argue that they’re not making the House of Mouse Scrooge McDuck levels of riches right now. And with the recent Aladdin remake – starring Will Smith, Naomi Scott and Mena Massoud – having just crossed the $950 million mark at the global box office, is it really that surprising that Disney bosses would be keen to cash in on a sequel, as soon as possible?

According to We Got This Covered, the plot of the alleged Aladdin live-action sequel echoes that of The Return of Jafar.

In the animated sequel, the eccentric Grand Vizier-turned-evil-Genie Jafar escapes from the Cave of Wonders and returns to Agrabah, seeking revenge on the street-rat that bested him – Aladdin. The sequel hasn’t exactly gone down in history as one of Disney’s top successes, in fact, it’s generally dismissed by critics, with a 59% rating on IMDb and a 33% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. That being said, it still has a strong cult following 25 years later.

But who knows, a little live-action magic could be all that’s needed to breathe new life into this somewhat forgotten sequel (if you ask us, out of all of Disney’s animated straight-to-video sequels, The Return of Jafar is the diamond in the rough).

And, let’s not forget, Disney has confirmed that at least nine other untitled live-action remakes are to be released before the end of 2023 – could one of these films be Aladdin 2? Is another magic carpet ride just over the horizon?

We don’t know about you, but we’re saving one of our wishes for a live-action The Return of Jafar remake.
Hiroe
Ma dai, secondo me non dovrebbero rovinare il brand dei remake con i sequel, hanno già tanto materiale rifacendo i vecchi classici! Nel caso lo facessero comunque, se non sarà sulla storia del ritorno di Jafar cosa potranno inventarsi? Mah
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Dal sito The Disinsider:

If A Live-Action ‘Aladdin’ Sequel Happens It Won’t Be Adapting The Animated Sequels

However, they could be influenced by them.

Disney’s live-action adaptation of Aladdin, proved to be a box office smash for the studio, grossing over $1 billion at the global box office, and received positive reviews for the most part. So it came as no surprise a couple of weeks back when producer Dan Lin teased that a sequel was in early development.

After Lin’s tease, the internet went ablaze hoping that the film would adapt the straight to video sequels The Return of Jafar or Aladdin and the King of Thieves, despite the live-action versions vastly different ending than the animated film. However, while speaking with ScreenRant, Lin shared the film will not adapt the sequels, but will instead be an original story, with some influences to the sequels.

It’s still early days. We never designed the movie to tell the Return of Jafar story, frankly. We were focused on telling the best movie possible. Now, we’re studying Jafar and the Thieves movie that came out, as well. We’re looking at that, but it’s still early days. We’re talking about different storylines. What we’re talking about is not going to be a direct remake of any sequel that’s come out, the same way that our movie was not a direct remake of the first movie. We studied the original movie and saw what worked and what things we wanted to update, and if we’re lucky enough to make another movie, we will do that as well. But it’s not going to be a remake of any specific DVD sequel. It’ll be a new story.

It will be interesting to see if Disney decides to officially move forward on an Aladdin sequel. 2016’s Alice In Wonderland sequel Through The Looking Glass was a huge disappoint amongst fans and critics, and made over $700 million less than the first film. However, all eyes are on Maleficent: Mistress of Evil to be the studios first live-action sequel in the remake/re-imagining era to be a box office success. That said, Aladdin has a large world and many stories they could explore.

Directed by Guy Ritchie, Aladdin is the exciting tale of the charming street rat Aladdin, the courageous and self-determined Princess Jasmine and the Genie who may be the key to their future. Directed by Guy Ritchie, who brings his singular flair for fast-paced, visceral action to the fictitious port city of Agrabah, the film is written by John August and Ritchie based on Disney’s animated classic “Aladdin.”

Aladdin stars Mena Massoud (Jack Ryan) as Aladdin, Naomi Scott (Power Rangers) as Jasmine, Will Smith (Bad Boys) as the iconic Genie, Marwan Kenzari (The Mummy 2017) as the villainous Jafar, Numan Acar (Prison Break) as Head of the guards Akim, Navid Negahban (Homeland) as The Sultan, Nasim Pedrad (SNL) as Dalia, Billy Magnussen (Into The Woods) as Prince Anders, and Alan Tudyk (Ralph Breaks The Internet) as the voice of Iago.
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Dal sito ScreenRant:

Aladdin 2 Won’t Adapt Animated Sequels (But Could Be Influenced By Them)

Aladdin producer Dan Lin says the live-action Aladdin 2 (if it happens) won't adapt the animated film's sequels, but could potentially be influenced by them. Despite the pre-release skepticism towards everything from Guy Ritchie directing to Will Smith following in Robin Williams' footsteps as The Genie, this year's live-action remake of Disney's animated Aladdin earned a suprisingly decent response from critics. General audiences were even happier with the film, which went on to gross over $1 billion at the worldwide box office this summer.

With those kinds of returns, it's little wonder the Mouse House is exploring the idea of a sequel. The animated Aladdin received two direct to video feature followups (titled The Return of Jafar and Aladdin and the King of Thieves), leading some to wonder if the live-action Aladdin 2 could adapt one or both of them. According to Lin, however, if the live-action sequel does happen, it will be an original story.

During our interview with Lin for Aladdin's home video release (the live-action remake and Aladdin Signature Collection hit Blu-ray on September 10), the producer confirmed Aladdin 2 is being considered, but - should it come to pass - won't be directly based on either of the animated Aladdin sequels. He went on to explain how the film could draw inspiration from them, instead:

It’s still early days. We never designed the movie to tell the Return of Jafar story, frankly. We were focused on telling the best movie possible. Now, we’re studying Jafar and the Thieves movie that came out, as well. We’re looking at that, but it’s still early days. We’re talking about different storylines. What we’re talking about is not going to be a direct remake of any sequel that’s come out, the same way that our movie was not a direct remake of the first movie. We studied the original movie and saw what worked and what things we wanted to update, and if we’re lucky enough to make another movie, we will do that as well. But it’s not going to be a remake of any specific DVD sequel. It’ll be a new story.

Assuming Aladdin 2 is eventually made, it's probably for the best that it won't be a direct remake of either Return of Jafar or King of Thieves. While both of those films have their strengths (Aladdin's father, Cassim, being one of them), neither one has a particularly inventive or memorable storyline. Plus, while the live-action Aladdin was able to get away with being a pretty faithful retelling that "fixes" the parts of Disney's animated movie that haven't aged well since 1992 (or were always problematic), audiences might not feel the same about Aladdin 2 being another near-shot-for-shot remake. At the same time, Return of Jafar and King of Thieves are arguably the best direct-to-video animated sequels Disney's ever made, so it would make sense for a live-action Aladdin 2 to take some inspiration from their best elements (similar to how Disney's Star Wars movies have borrowed from the abandoned Expanded Universe or Legends lore).

Disney's previous sequels to its live-action remakes (102 Dalmatians and Alice Through the Looking Glass) didn't fare so well either critically or commercially, so the odds are the studio won't green-light Aladdin 2 unless it's convinced its plot is something that audiences will actually want to see. The Aladdin sequel's chances of happening could also be impacted by the performance of October's Maleficent: Mistress of Evil, which is similarly bettting on audiences wanting to see a followup to Disney's live-action Sleeping Beauty retelling with a brand-new story. Still, after Aladdin's billion dollar performance, it's fair to assume the Mouse House will give Aladdin 2 some serious thought before making the call either way.

Disney's live-action Aladdin and Aladdin Signature Collection become available on Blu-ray starting Tuesday, September 10.
Fulvio84
Aladdin e' stato il mio live action preferito dopo Cenrentola ma il seguito e' veramente inutile.
Bene cosi, andiamo avanti con qualcos'altro adesso!
Hiroe
Sicuramente è inutile per noi, non per loro... Poi come faranno con il genio che è diventato umano? Lo fanno tornare genio? Bah.

Comunque loro stanno cercando altri titoli con cui fare del franchising, e non potendo, come logico che sia (anche se la politica Eisner la pensava differentemente) fare un sequel del classico originale, cercano di farlo con i remake live action, sperando che i fan accaniti come noi non se l'abbiano a male come se lo facessero per il classico. Se gli va bene e fanno un buon film è un successo, se andrà male non scalfiranno il classico, ma solo il remake.
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L'attore Mena Massoud (che interpreta Aladdin) parla dell'eventualità di un sequel.

Dal sito ET Online:

Mena Massoud Says There's a Possibility of an 'Aladdin' Sequel (Exclusive)

Listen up, Aladdin fans!

ET's Ash Crossan sat down with the cast of the upcoming Hulu crime drama series Reprisal at New York Comic Con over the weekend, including Mena Massoud, the star of the hit Disney film, who hinted that a sequel is a definite possibility.

"I don't think it will be Return of Jafar, but I think there's a possibility of a sequel, yes," he stated, referencing the animated 1994 sequel. Later, he joked, "I think they should do one just about the animals. Like, Abu, Raja, Iago and the carpet all get together. Throwing it out there!"



Daydreamer
Pubblico qui quest'intervista all'attore interprete di Aladdin, le sue dichiarazioni sono sconfortanti per un attore il cui ruolo avrebbe potuto permettergli il cosiddetto salto di qualità, ma pare che così non sia stato. Mena Massoud denuncia le difficoltà a trovare un nuovo ruolo e a sostenere provini. Il ruolo di Aladdin potrebbe averlo in parte ingabbiato e sarà interessante sapere, semmai ci sarà un chiacchierato sequel, come si comporterà al riguardo, ma in genere, per produzioni come questo, gli attori firmano contratti che prevedono le possibilità di un seguito.

Da The Hollywood Reporter

Mena Massoud Says He Hasn't Had a "Single Audition" Since 'Aladdin'

"I’m kind of tired of staying quiet about it," the 'Aladdin' and 'Reprisal' actor says in a new interview.
For Mena Massoud, starring as the lead of a movie that earned a billion dollars hasn't led to instant Hollywood success.

“I’m kind of tired of staying quiet about it,” the Aladdin actor says in a new Daily Beast interview, published Tuesday. “I want people to know that it’s not always dandelions and roses when you’re doing something like Aladdin. ‘He must have made millions. He must be getting all these offers.’ It’s none of those things. I haven’t had a single audition since Aladdin came out.”

Massoud famously beat out 2,000 other actors to land the titular character in the Disney live-action remake, which has grossed $1.05 billion at the box office. He can be seen on Hulu's Reprisal, which premieres Friday, and is set for a voice role in the upcoming animated feature Lamya's Poem.

“It’s wild to a lot of people,” Massoud added in the story. “People have these ideas in their head. It’s like, I'm sitting here being like, OK, Aladdin just hit $1 billion. Can I at least get an audition? Like I’m not expecting you to be like, here’s Batman. But can I just get in the room? Like, can you just give me a chance? So it’s not always what you think.”

The Egyptian-born Canadian actor has been vocal about his previous struggles to avoid playing terrorist characters as a Middle Eastern actor in Hollywood and his early challenges as an actor in Canada. "Even though I'm very fortunate and grateful to have played Aladdin, there were still four, five casting directors who never gave me a shot in Toronto. They didn't give me the time of day. I never got to audition for them," Massoud told The Hollywood Reporter while launching his Ethnically Diverse Artists Foundation, which looks to support underrepresented artists.

During the casting process for Reprisal, which occurred after Massoud finished production on Aladdin, he says series creator Josh Corbin had "no fucking idea who I was." He added, "I feel like I'm going to be overlooked and underestimated for a long time because I am a young actor. I'm an up-and-comer in the sense that I've been doing this for 10 years, but to a lot of people, Aladdin's the first thing they’ve seen me in. So I think I'm going to be viewed that way for a long time. I'm going to have to work at chipping away at that.”

Still, Massoud is getting some recognition as a young actor: In October, he received the SCAD Savannah Film Festival's Breakout Award with Booksmart's Kaitlyn Dever and Beanie Feldstein, When They See Us' Jharrel Jerome and Mickey and the Bear's Camila Morrone.

However, Massoud said in the story, “I think since Aladdin my expectations for things releasing and what they’re going to do in my career, I’ve had to really pull them back. Because, you know, I got the same question about Aladdin and it was like, ‘Oh, you know, Aladdin’s coming out. How do you feel about what that’s going to do to your career?’ The big truth is I haven’t really seen a big anything from it.”
BennuzzO
Mi spiace davvero per questo ragazzo, che oltre ad essere un attore talentuoso e bello, è anche un uomo gentile e sensibile. Spero sinceramente che arrivi un'altra occasione, se lo merita.
theprinceisonfire
Le grandi produzioni cinematografiche sono una gigantesca vetrina, ma bisogna sapere sfruttare la visibilità che, per qualche istante, regalano.

Mena Massoud ha mostrato doti recitative non eccelse, paragonabili a qualsiasi attore della CW; in più il film è stato stroncato dalla critica, che lo ha ritenuto di poco spessore, soprattutto con riguardo alle categorie "artistiche" (recitazione, sceneggiatura, regia).

Il successo di pubblico, poi, è nel caso specifico legato principalmente al "brand" che il film porta con sé e rappresenta, quindi non c'è un legame tra i fan e l'attore nelle vesti del personaggio (non è un caso assimilabile a "pirati dei caraibi" dove Jack Sparrow/Jhonny Depp è entrato nell'immaginario collettivo e Keira Knightley è stata lanciata come star globale).

Mi spiace umanamente che stia avendo difficoltà, ma era piuttosto prevedibile che un attore "di colore", con un solo film di successo alle spalle e senza alcun appoggio da parte della critica avrebbe faticato enormemente a trovare sbocchi nell'immediato.

Persino Naomi Scott, che pure è "white passing" (cioè può anche sembrare bianca, se truccata e ripresa in una determinata maniera) ha avuto difficoltà, nonostante lei dalla critica abbia ricevuto riscontri positivi; infatti, dopo Charlie's Angels (flop senza confini, nel quale è stata peraltro piuttosto criticata come "anello debole" fra le tre protagoniste) non ha nessun progetto in sviluppo a breve termine.
Daydreamer
Hollywood è spietata, da...sempre.
Oggi le nuove leve, in particolare, faticano ad accettarne i meccanismi. Io ogni tanto mi chiedo se invece di ingraziarsi le simpatie degli addetti ai lavori non le allontanino con fraintendimenti che li facciano apparire divi un po' arroganti e vanesi. Qualcuno un po' se la cerca, tipo Christian Navarro, col suo quarantotto per non aver ricevuto la parte del principe Eric nel live action de La Sirenetta.
Comunque Mena Massoud sta cercando di sostenere attivamente le diversità etniche attraverso una fondazione per giovani artisti emergenti, per chi ne volesse sapere di più, ecco il link, gli auguro tanta fortuna smile.gif.
veu
Domani torniamo con calma sull'argomento... una cosa però ci è viene in mente... ma in USA come funziona il sistema degli agenti dei vari attori? sappiamo che alcuni attori come la Jolie (o anche la Johansson) ad esempio hanno agenzie molto forti che riescono a piazzarli in blockbuster o comunque film di successo.
La Naomi Scott non capiamo perchè è sempre legata alla Banks che già coi Power Rangers le ha fatto collezionare un floppone madornale e con Charlie's Angels non si è distaccata molto dai risultati di Power Rangers.

Il fatto che né la Scott né Massoud abbiano progetti per i prossimi anni conferma quello che dicevamo tempo fa sul fatto che se non sono nomi pompatissimi e che sarebbero caduti nel dimenticatoio presto. Per carità bellissimi e bravi in Aladdin ma non sono nomi che attirano la gente al cinema, forse non hanno agenti forti o magar consigliano loro progetti sbagliati ma già il fatto che lo stesso Aladdin (fortissimo al cinema ma per niente nelle pubblicità) è stato oscurato dal Re Leone uscito proprio a cavallo conferma quello che dicevamo tempo fa: se non pubblicizzano il film con libri, gadget ecc nemmeno gli attori poi rimangono nell'immaginario collettivo (Scott e Massoud ne sono l'esempio). Se vedete una Lily James è stata lanciata dalla Disney ma all'epoca non avevano messo a due mesi dall'uscita di Cenerentola un filmone alla Re Leone o Frozen per capirci e Cenerentola ha goduto di una pubblicità alle stelle rispetto ad Aladdin (non contiamo Emma Watson per la Bella e la Bestia o la Jolie per Maleficent perchè sono nomi già noti prima del debutto in Disney, su quest'ultima c'è comunque da dire che un po' di pubblicità contraria l'ha avuta, vedesi il recente Maleficent Signora del Male collocato a due mesi dal Re Leone in un periodo in cui si sapeva già che non avrebbe portato numeri in incasso, senza pubblicità , insomma hanno fatto di tutto per rendere Maleficent Signora del Male una nuova Pocahontas che all'epoca fu considerata un floppone colossale perchè non ebbe i numeri del Re Leone. Sembra che abbiano voluto trasformare Maleficent Signora del Male in un nuovo Pocahontas piazzandola - guarda caso - subito in coda al Re Leone... a noi Pocahontas piacque però il periodo Pocahontas coi vari paragoni che non è all'altezza del film precedente e del film successivo non lo vogliamo rivivere mai più)


Comunque ci dispiace davvero sia per Massoud sia per la Scott
Hiroe
Si, dispiace un sacco per questi due attori che nel film mi sono piaciuti molto! C'è da dire che Massoud non si è distinto per recitazione, ma tanti altri attori di Hollywood, vedi Emma Watson, rimangono famosi anche senza tale qualità.

In questi casi ricordo sempre Di Caprio. Dopo Titanic sembrava finito, relegato al ruolo recitato in quel film e senza possibilità di sbocchi ulteriori... Dopo qualche anno di assenza dallo scenario cinematografico e tante parti minori, adesso è uno dei migliori attori di Hollywood. Il tempo, la bravura e l'impegno pagano.
Daydreamer
...e anche il colore della pelle. E Massoud lo sa bene. A Hollywood non scelgono il miglior attore ma quello che ha le caratteristiche più vicine alla parte. Anche la Wasikowska era una sconosciuta, certo forse con capacità attoriali più solide, ma ha avuto molte più chance del collega. Guarda caso è bianca. Per questo Massoud ha aperto una fondazione volta a sostenere gli attori di minoranza etnica.
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Di Caprio però è diventato una STAR con Titanic... Massoud e Scott non sono diventati star. Sono bravi (sopratutto la Scott) e belli (pure ben di più di com'era all'epoca Di Caprio) ma non sono certo paragonabili al fenomeno Di Caprio nemmeno lontanamente.
Auguriamo loro di diventare noti come Di Caprio, questo sì, ma la loro stella non è stata così fortunata al momento.

Segnaliamo nel frattempo una piccola curiosità:

Da Twitter:

Skyler Shuler:

I understand that Massoud is frustrated over the lack of auditions (which is sad), but ALADDIN 2 is in active development and Disney will make sure he gets paid.


Daydreamer
CITAZIONE
Skyler Shuler:

I understand that Massoud is frustrated over the lack of auditions (which is sad), but ALADDIN 2 is in active development and Disney will make sure he gets paid.


Skyler Shuler ha risposto ad una serie di domande dei suoi followers sul suo profilo Instagram: non solo il sequel di Aladdin è in sviluppo, ma pure uno spin-off sul Principe Anders! post-6-1111346575.gif
Hiroe
unsure.gif wacko.gif blink.gif
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Ecco che cosa ha riportato Skyler Shuler nella sezione Storie di Instagram:




Gli spin off di Aladdin verranno realizzati prima di Aladdin 2.
Daydreamer
Da Variety

‘Aladdin’ Sequel in the Works (EXCLUSIVE)

Following the massive success of last summer’s reboot, Disney is developing a follow-up to the film with writers John Gatins and Andrea Berloff.

Sources say the movie is in early development, but after spending the last six months figuring out what direction to take the next film, producers look to have found their path.

Dan Lin and Jonathan Eirich, who produced the original, are back producing through their Rideback banner, with Ryan Halprin executive producing.

It’s unknown at this time whether director Guy Ritchie will return. Producers hope to bring back stars Will Smith, Mena Massoud and Naomi Scott, but offers won’t be extended to the cast until a script is ready.

The film will be a theatrical release, not a Disney Plus title. The original animated movie had two straight-to-video sequels, but sources say this new take is completely original and not based on those ideas.

Based on the 1992 animated classic, the 2019 pic was a massive hit, becoming only the fourth live-action adaptation to cross the billion-dollar global box office milestone — joining “The Lion King,” “Beauty and the Beast” and “Alice in Wonderland.” Following the film’s success, studio execs knew audiences were hungry for more, but were also aware that they needed to find the right take. After a thorough search that involved taking pitches from numerous writers, they finally found what they were looking for following a meeting with Gatins and Berloff.

Gatins, who earned an Oscar nomination for his work on the Denzel Washington drama “Flight,” most recently wrote “Power Rangers” for Lionsgate. Berloff’s credits include “The Kitchen,” which she also directed, “Sleepless,” and “Straight Outta Compton,” which earned her an Oscar nomination for original screenplay.
Hiroe
Continuo a dire che per me è un orrore pensare a un sequel per questo film. Secondo me la Disney prenderà una batosta nel provare a creare un "franchising" su alcuni remake dei classici (infatti i sequel dei remake finora sono andati male, Malefica 2 un po'meglio ma era una storia moooolto rivista). Il vero franchising da sfruttare è il remake o spinoff del classico originale, e infatti ogni film che segue quella scia fa incassi altissimi, e più si avvicina al classico e più piace. Questa è la mia analisi avendo visto i risultati nel corso degli anni passati.
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Se fatti bene i sequel possono funzionare... Maleficent 2 è stato molto bello e non è nemmeno andato così male se si considera che è uscito in un anno saturo e in un periodo folle per far uscire un film Disney.

Segnaliamo che per il sequel si pensa a riprendere alcune storie delle Mille e una Notte... lo riporta il sito Hollywood Reporter.

Dal sito The Hollywood Reporter:

'Aladdin 2' in the Works With 'Flight,' 'Straight Outta Compton' Writers

Will Smith and the rest of the cast are expected to return, although no deals are set.
Aladdin is getting ready for another magic carpet ride.

A sequel to the 2019 blockbuster is in the the works at Disney, with the studio hiring scribes John Gatins (Flight, Real Steel) and Andrea Berloff (Straight Outta Compton, The Kitchen) to plot the new course.

Guy Ritchie is set to return to the director's chair, while Will Smith, Mena Massoud and Naomi Scott are expected to reprise their roles as Genie, Aladdin and Jasmine, respectively.

Last year's live-action movie musical was based on the 1992 animated film about the titular street urchin who, with the help of a magic genie, wins the heart of Princess Jasmine.

Disney held a writers room in the summer to generate ideas for a follow-up. It is unknown what the idea is behind the next installment, but at one point the studio and producers were looking at other stories from One Thousand and One Nights, the collection of Middle Eastern folk tales that also houses Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves and Sinbad the Sailor.

Dan Lin and Jonathan Eirich of Rideback, who last produced Two Popes, are returning to produce. Rideback's Ryan Halprin will executive produce.

Aladdin was released over Memorial Day weekend and went on to gross a massive $355 million domestically and $1.05 billion at the global box office.



Speriamo che i personaggi di Aladdin e Jasmine siano presenti TUTTI E DUE nel sequel, che non facciano come con Il Cacciatore e la Regina di Ghiaccio, sequel di Biancaneve e il Cacciatore, che a causa del fatto che non c'era Biancaneve ha DISTRUTTO letteralmente un ottimo film e ha reso ridicola e orribile una storia che sarebbe stata invece ricordata e amata. Speriamo che almeno con Aladdin rispettino la scia di Alice Attraverso lo Specchio e Maleficent Signora del Male con il ritorno di tutto il cast originale (o quantomeno i tre principali - Aladdin, Jasmine e il Genio). Senza Aladdin e Jasmine (che tra l'altro sono stati i più amati della versione live action, anche più del Genio) il sequel non avrebbe senso
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Dalle storie Instagram di Skyler Shuler:




Skyler dice che tutto quello che sa sul film è che non è basato su alcun materiale esistente, quindi non richiama i sequel animati
Daydreamer
Da prendere con le pinze, ma visto che i precedenti rumor su questo film sono stati confermati, potrebbe essere vera anche la storia del...Capitolo 3.

Da We Got This Covered

Disney Reportedly Planning On Turning Aladdin Into A Trilogy

Last May, Disney released their live-action remake of Aladdin, which turned out to be one of the studio’s biggest hits of the year. The reboot of the beloved 1992 animated classic earned over $1 billion at the global box office. It came as no surprise, then, when we started hearing a sequel could be on the way a few months after it released. But it seems the Mouse House’s plans for Agrabah don’t end there.
Sources close to WGTC – the same ones who told us Aladdin 2 was in the works months before it was announced, and that Disney was remaking Robin Hood and Bambi, both of which were correct – say that we can expect an Aladdin 3 as well. That’s right, we’re hearing that Disney is planning on delivering an entire trilogy based on the remake, expanding the story of Aladdin, Jasmine and the Genie across three films.
To be clear, this trilogy is separate from the spinoff projects also in development. Last December, a solo movie for Billy Magnussen’s Prince Anders was announced, with WGTC confirming earlier this year that a vehicle for Nasim Pedrad’s Dalia is also in the works. Fans will know that there’s already a trilogy of animated Aladdin films, too, but Lin has previously revealed that future movies will not be wholly based on Return of Jafar and The King of Thieves.
BennuzzO
Estremamente eccitato per la news! Continuo a sperare che possano inserire il personaggio di Cassim che, personalmente, ho sempre adorato.
Daydreamer
CITAZIONE (BennuzzO @ 24/4/2020, 23:26) *
Estremamente eccitato per la news! Continuo a sperare che possano inserire il personaggio di Cassim che, personalmente, ho sempre adorato.


A me che fa storcere il naso è l'assurdità di pensare ad uno spin-off su Dahlia, la dama di compagnia di Jasmine, mi sa tanto di pesce d'aprile in ritardo...
Fulvio84
CITAZIONE (Daydreamer @ 24/4/2020, 21:34) *
Da prendere con le pinze, ma visto che i precedenti rumor su questo film sono stati confermati, potrebbe essere vera anche la storia del...Capitolo 3.

Da We Got This Covered

Disney Reportedly Planning On Turning Aladdin Into A Trilogy

Last May, Disney released their live-action remake of Aladdin, which turned out to be one of the studio’s biggest hits of the year. The reboot of the beloved 1992 animated classic earned over $1 billion at the global box office. It came as no surprise, then, when we started hearing a sequel could be on the way a few months after it released. But it seems the Mouse House’s plans for Agrabah don’t end there.
Sources close to WGTC – the same ones who told us Aladdin 2 was in the works months before it was announced, and that Disney was remaking Robin Hood and Bambi, both of which were correct – say that we can expect an Aladdin 3 as well. That’s right, we’re hearing that Disney is planning on delivering an entire trilogy based on the remake, expanding the story of Aladdin, Jasmine and the Genie across three films.
To be clear, this trilogy is separate from the spinoff projects also in development. Last December, a solo movie for Billy Magnussen’s Prince Anders was announced, with WGTC confirming earlier this year that a vehicle for Nasim Pedrad’s Dalia is also in the works. Fans will know that there’s already a trilogy of animated Aladdin films, too, but Lin has previously revealed that future movies will not be wholly based on Return of Jafar and The King of Thieves.

Io non ho parole, questi sono impazziti
kekkomon
Sto sito caccia sequel e remake senza un impronta di info vere.
Hiroe
Secondo me è molto probabile che ormai facciano una trilogia. Forse lo sviluppo del secondo e del terzo film sono collegati, rendendo inevitabile il terzo capitolo già a questo punto della produzione. Questo mi fa piacere perché vorrebbe dire che la trama del seguito sarà molto articolata.
Daydreamer
Kekko in verità spesso ci prendono, e considerato il trend della Disney, non mi stupirebbe affatto un ulteriore terzo capitolo, non fosse altro che per rimpinguare Disney+ sull'usato sicuro.
kekkomon
CITAZIONE (Daydreamer @ 25/4/2020, 17:04) *
Kekko in verità spesso ci prendono, e considerato il trend della Disney, non mi stupirebbe affatto un ulteriore terzo capitolo, non fosse altro che per rimpinguare Disney+ sull'usato sicuro.

Ci prendono perché hanno sparato su ogni cosa possibile 😅
Daydreamer
In effetti...Però, almeno diamo fiato al forum con un po' di news, ci aspettano vacche molto magre ahimè.
kekkomon
CITAZIONE (Daydreamer @ 25/4/2020, 19:55) *
In effetti...Però, almeno diamo fiato al forum con un po' di news, ci aspettano vacche molto magre ahimè.

Però darei news da siti migliori. Che riempirlo di news che non sono news ma previsioni.
Hiroe
A me i rumors interessano, anche solo per parlarne un po' wink.gif
theprinceisonfire
Come ogni anno, Deadline Hollywood ha pubblicato la classifica dei film di maggior profitto per l'anno appena trascorso. Aladdin si è piazzato in settima posizione, come potete leggere qui.

Il profitto netto è di 356 milioni di dollari, con un ritorno di investimento per dollaro di 1.78 (cioè ogni dollaro investito ne ha fruttati 1.78).

I dati sono comprensivi dei proventi da home video e merchandising. Il risultato lo definirei molto buono, per quanto minore rispetto a "la Bella e la Bestia", che generò un profitto di 414 milioni di dollari; si intuisce perché vogliano procedere con i sequel, dato che gli attori hanno già firmato e si sono accontentati di un compenso molto modesto.
veu
Grazie Theprinceisonfire!

Riportiamo l'articolo che hai indicato da DeadLine:

‘Aladdin’ Keeps Disney’s Live-Action Toon Pics On A Magic Carpet Ride: No. 7 On Deadline’s 2019 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament

While Disney has long played the Memorial Day holiday, it historically has had a string of disasters there including Solo: A Star Wars Story, Alice Through the Looking Glass, Pirates 5, Tomorrowland and Prince of Persia. Finally last year it hit pay dirt with the live-action redo of its animated hit musical Aladdin, which turned out a global opening of $234.7 million, and the fifth-biggest opening for the four-day summer holiday with $116.8M stateside. That repped the second-biggest opening of Will Smith’s career after Suicide Squad ($133.6M domestic); the actor had been experiencing a funk at the box office with serious movies like Concussion, Collateral Beauty and Focus. Aladdin also repped a big comeback for director Guy Ritchie, repping his best opening ever in the wake of his bomb from three years ago, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, which lost more than $153M. A strong play in Latin America as well as in China, where word of mouth grew among audiences, was key to delivering Smith’s biggest film of his career here at $1.05 billion, besting Independence Day’s $817M worldwide gross from 1996. Rival studios sniped about the pic’s marketing materials at CinemaCon last spring, thinking Smith’s blue genie was too scary, and that Aladdin was poised to upset die-hard Disney fans. That was hardly the case as families and females came out en masse and gave Aladdin a big A+. Aladdin also repped another big win for diversity at the box office, with a multicultural cast on the marquee.

Aladdin cost more than Disney’s 2017 feature live-action adaptation of Beauty and the Beast, $185M to $160M before P&A, even though the genie’s overall global costs were slightly lower at $455M compared with Beauty‘s near half billion. Overall difference? Beast made more with $912.5M in all global theatrical, TV and home entertainment revenues to Aladdin‘s $811M. Participations of $25M were mostly collected by Ritchie and Smith. Interest here at $30M is the amount figured on production costs; essentially when a studio looks at their own profitability, it includes an allocation for their borrowing costs. Net profit for Aladdin was $356M versus Beauty and the Beast‘s $414.7M. Disney has a sequel in the works with John Gatins (Flight, Real Steel) and Andrea Berloff (Straight Outta Compton, The Kitchen) writing. No word if Smith or Ritchie will return yet.



Ci piace che abbiano considerato che il film è uscito in un momento che per il cinema sarebbe stato disastroso (il Memorial Day)... con i numeri che ha fatto in un periodo in cui la gente non va al cinema e i film da anni erano flop c'è da dire che gli incassi di Aladdin sono più che ottimi (anche tenuto conto del fatto che non vi erano grandi nomi a differenza della Bella e la Bestia, e il compenso di Mena Massoud e Naomi Scott è stato davvero modesto per la pellicola).
Daydreamer
Skyler Shuler riporta nelle sue storie su Instagram che una prima bozza della sceneggiatura è stata presentata. Ci sono possibilità che Richie torni alla regia.



BennuzzO
Splendida notizia. Nonostante abbiano dichiarato che i sequel non riprenderanno la trilogia animata, mi auguro davvero che in qualche modo omaggeranno Il ritorno di Jafar (magari recuperando anche un paio di canzoni!).
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Dalle storie di Instagram di Skyler Shuler:





Noi speriamo troppo che SIA Aladdin SIA Jasmine tornino nel sequel!!!!
Non vogliamo sequel alla Cacciatore e la Regina di Ghiaccio che è stata una stupidata e ha rovinato un potenziale franchise...
Aladdin e Jasmine sono troppo importanti e DEVONO esserci entrambi nel sequel! anche perchè di fatto nel live action la Scott si è mangiata tutti gli altri (pure Smith) ed è stata lei la vera rivelazione del film (nonostante inizialmente fosse stata iper criticata perchè non era famosa come la Watson per Belle e non è stata pubblicizzata a più non posso come accadde alla James per Cenerentola)...
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Dal sito Heroic Hollywood:

‘Aladdin’ Star Marwan Kenzari Is Up For A ‘Return Of Jafar’ Film

'Aladdin' star and Jafar actor Marwan Kenzari is willing to return to the role for 'The Return of Jafar'.

Aladdin star and Jafar actor Marwan Kenzari is up for a return to the franchise for a film based on The Return of Jafar.

In Aladdin, Marwan Kenzari portrayed the film’s primary antagonist, Jafar. Unlike his cartoon counterpart, Marwan Kenzari’s take on the character was a bit more of a conniving schemer whose origins, he claimed, were not unlike Aladdin’s. Much like the animated film, the heroes couldn’t overcome Jafar’s powerful sorcery and tricked him into wishing himself to be a genie, before being cast into the Cave of Wonders.

Jafar would eventually return to the Aladdin films for the direct to video animated film, The Return of Jafar. In it, Jafar’s lamp was discovered by a criminal known as Abis Mal and the two caused all kinds of trouble for Aladdin and company. With a sequel currently in development, some have speculated that the upcoming film will be based in some way on The Return of Jafar. If that were the case, Marwan Kenzari would be more then willing to return to the role.

While speaking to Comicbook.com, Marwan Kenzari was asked if he would be up for a return to the role if it were based on The Return of Jafar. The actor responded by saying he was ready for it:

“I would be humbly grateful to do a second one. It’s up to the big bosses and I’m all ready.”

What do you all make of this? Would you like to see a new Aladdin film based on The Return of Jafar? What did you think Marwan Kenzari’s take on the character? Let us know what you think in the comments below!
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Dal sito ET Online:

Mena Massoud On Possible 'Aladdin 2'

Mena Massoud shares with ET Canada's Roz Weston the moments he thought about walking away from acting and reveals whether there's an "Aladdin 2" in the works.


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Qualcuno sa dirci che cosa dice? abbiamo difficoltà con il video...
Daydreamer
Niente che si sappia già. Massoud è un po' sconsolato per non avere ricevuto proposte dopo il film, Aladdin 2 è in fase di sole proposte e idee e non sarà il Ritorno di Jafar, si sta andando a rilento perché la Disney è concentrata sulla ripartenza e su come far uscire i nuovi film come Mulan già ampiamente rimandato.
veu
Grazie Alessio!

Ci dispiace davvero per Massoud . In Aladdin l'abbiamo trovato molto bravo ed era pure piaciuto parecchio anche alle ragazzine urlanti in sala... perchè non "pomparlo" di più?
purtroppo come avevamo detto il cast di Aladdin non è stato per niente pompato, a differenza degli altri cast... non solo Massoud ma anche la Scott nonostante sia stata bravissima ha una carriera che non è decollata... e nemmeno lei è pompata alle stelle come altre sue colleghe... abbiamo visto che gli altri attori dei live action li hanno subito messi in 3 o 4 film subito dopo, invece Massoud e la Scott non si sono visti altrove nè hanno altri film in progetto, peccato.
speriamo che realizzino presto Aladdin 2 così almeno li vediamo di nuovo assieme... se lo meritano di tornare alla ribalta, sono belli, bravi e umili... tra l'altro abbiamo sentito dire che il loro cachet è stato il più basso di quelli chiesti dagli altri attori dei vari live action...
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Premettiamo che non ci crediamo proprio... però circola questa notizia e la riportiamo

ATTENZIONE! NON é UFFICIALE!!!! E NON CI CREDIAMO!


Dal sito CBR:

Disney's Live-Action Mulan and Aladdin Sequels Should Cross Over

Disney ought to go as absurd as possible with the next Mulan and have it be a crossover with Aladdin.

WARNING: The following contains major spoilers for Disney's Mulan, now streaming on Disney+.

Live-action Disney films have had mixed response, but audiences keep showing up to see them. It isn't a surprise that Disney will continue to make remakes of their classic animated films, which almost unanimously fail to stand out when compared to the originals. These films often try to "improve" the original, but instead the movies prove it's near impossible for Disney to recapture the magic of the animated classics.

While the continuation of these remakes is inevitable, audiences can hope that Disney will stop trying to recapture the magic of the originals and instead make something new based on inspiration from the classics. With that in mind, as seen by Maleficent: Mistress of Evil, a straight-up sequel may not be what audiences want. Instead, Disney should just go all-in on the absurdity and make the sequel to Mulan crossover with Aladdin.

So How Would This Work

The newest film, Mulan, has released. Unlike most other films, it leaves the door open for a sequel by suggesting that Mulan will join the Emperor's personal guard and deal with international conflicts. This might involve going outside of China to help patch up the trade routes Böri Khan damaged during his rampage, which means traveling to the western deserts outside of China.

While it's unclear when exactly Mulan and Aladdin take place, there's little reason to imagine these films in dramatically different time periods. If a sequel to Mulan were about the Emperor's Guard dealing with the trade routes, then they could end up in Agrabah with Jasmine as the Sultana-Regent alongside Aladdin. While the Genie is off traveling the world, he could also play into the plot at some point since his travels could take him into China.

The villain could be Jafar again with him being an all-powerful genie this time. On the other hand, the conflict could be between the two nations as they come to blows over trade negotiations. Either way, audiences would see iconic characters from separate films come in conflict with one another, something the live-action films have yet to do.

It doesn't hurt that the core cast of Aladdin and the core cast of Mulan are similar while also being morally opposites. Mulan and Aladdin both took on fake identities to achieve their objectives, and both were restricted by the roles society casts for them in their solo films. Meanwhile, Aladdin and Jasmine prefer subverting and rewriting rules as they see fit. Meanwhile, Mulan is lawful good. Even when the laws and societal customs hurt her, she remains true to her beliefs. The contrast in world views alone would be interesting to see if given to the proper creative team.

Silly But Memorable

This idea sounds silly, but the Disney live-action remakes have suffered because these movies try too hard to either "fix" the original or make a mature family film. In doing so, this restricts the imagination that drove the original animated projects forward. The problem is that these films are restrained by their legacy; however, this would be a way to break free of that by doing something done only once before. Ironically, it was done by the original Aladdin.

In the 90s and 2000s, Disney created animated sequels and spin-off shows for its popular films. While Mulan's sole sequel was not received well, Aladdin had some success, with two sequels and an animated series. Another show going on at the time was a spin-off of Hercules. In one episode of Hercules, Hades finds the soul of Jafar, and the two engage in a villain team-up against their enemies. It is both as ridiculous and entertaining as it sounds.

The live-action remakes need that level of absurdity in order to hold audiences' attention. The remakes feel cookie-cutter, safe and unremarkable. It is clear that Disney is planning on making sequels to the remakes, seeing how Aladdin 2 is in development. If Disney want to continue these franchises, it needs to give audiences a reason to come back. A crossover could be that reason.

While Disney doesn't need to make a shared-universe, a crossover is, at least, fun. Furthermore, an Aladdin-Mulan crossover will be more entertaining to watch than another copy of something beloved from the 90s.



Commento personale: non ci crediamo che facciano, per ora, una cosa simile. In futuro magari, ma ci sembra presto.
Tra l'altro l'articolo presenta delle inesattezze... Maleficent 2 non è stato un insuccesso, magari speravano di più ma non è andato male. è stato superiore per gradimento e critica a molti altri film (Alice 2, Schiaccianoci, Nelle pieghe del tempo, Mary Poppins 2, ecc)
buffyfan
Ma chi potrebbe anche solo lontanamente pensare che Mulan avrà un sequel. Dubito fortemente sia affidabile anche solo per questo. ohmy.gif Ma poi che trashata ne verrebbe fuori da una cosa simile?
Daydreamer
Recentemente parlavano di un "Cross-Over Movie" (ne abbiamo dato notizia anche qui sul forum) ma dubito fortemente che intreccino i personaggi dei live action.
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Dal sito DeadLine:

‘Aladdin’ Star Mena Massoud Signs With Gersh

EXCLUSIVE: Mena Massoud, titular star of Disney’s Aladdin remake, has signed with Gersh for representation.

After a competitive search, Massoud landed the coveted role in the 2019 live-action feature, which grossed over 1 billion dollars worldwide. Massoud also is set to star in the sequel, which will be directed by Guy Ritchie. Additionally, Massoud starred opposite Ben Platt, Nina Dobrev, and Damian Lewis in Run This Town, which premiered at SXSW.

On the TV side, Mena can most recently be seen in Hulu’s Reprisal, produced by Warren Littlefield. Previous TV credits include Jack Ryan, Open Hearts and Cut to the Chase.

Massoud, previously with ICM Partners, also is repped by LINK and Myman Greenspan.



Traduzione:

* Mena Massoud ritornerà per il sequel di Aladdin.
* Il sequel sarà diretto da Guy Ritchie.



Speriamo torni anche Naomi Scott (Jasmine)!!! Che non facciano le cretinate combinate con Il cacciatore e la regina di ghiaccio in cui hanno ROVINATO Biancaneve e il cacciatore!
Hiroe
A meno che Naomi Scott abbia una tresca con Guy Ritchie, credo proprio che tornerà anche lei... XD
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