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Manifesto Giapponese:



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La tag line del manifesto giapponese è stata tradotta in questo modo:

"Why was Elsa given powers?"


Nel frattempo Josh Gad, voce di Olaf, ha riportato sul suo account ufficiale di Twitter , postando un'immagine di Elsa che salta nell'oceano, la seguente frase:

You all have NO idea.


Sembra che il nuovo trailer sia imminente questa volta.



Inoltre, per capire l'era del dopo - Lasseter, ecco cosa riportava un sito che indica cosa intendono fare con il nuovo film sulla Regina delle Nevi:

this all feels so different from the first film. Its like now that Lasseter is gone Jen Lee feels free to do the movie she thinks the first Frozen should have been. And again with Lasseter not there to reign in and keep the film family friendly(and marketable, notice the lack of cute new sidekicks this time unlike with TS4)Jen isn't scared to make true lasting changes to the characters even if it means the outcome may not be what families/fans expect or want from a typical safe Disney sequel.


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messaggio 4/6/2019, 23:51
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Ma speriamo!!


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Trailer settimana prossima (in occasione del Festival dell'animazione di Annecy probabilmente)

Da Trailer Track:

IN THE PIPELINE: Brand New 'Frozen 2' Trailer Finally On The Way?

It seems like, at last, we may be getting a brand new look at Disney’s Frozen 2 this month. What appears to be a brand new trailer for the sequel to the 2013 hit has been rated today by the UK’s BBFC. If this is indeed a fresh look, it will no doubt debut in time for Toy Story 4 later this month – if this is the case, expect it online in the next two weeks. As always, we will update as soon as we receive more info.



Featuring the voices of Idina Menzel, Kristen Bell, Jonathan Groff, Josh Gad, Evan Rachel Wood and Sterling K. Brown, film is released in the UK and the US on November 22.



Qui un articolo interessante (mettiamo il link prima e l'immagine poi):

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Come potete leggere i quattro elementi (terra, vento/aria, fuoco e acqua) saranno presenti in Frozen 2

Frostharmonic (da prendere MOLTO con le pinze, si tratta di rumors) su Instagram ha poi detto che:
- ci sarà una storia d'amore, ma non per Elsa
- il ritorno di Hans è probabile.



Al commento di Frostharmonic, risponde questo tumbl

Dal sito Super-Mam-Te-Moc:

Anonymous asked:

Guess this info we got suggest that Elsa won't get any love interest at all, Frost harmonic just confirmed that Elsa will build a relationship with nokk the water spirit, and Evan Rachel wood is having a duet with Anna, probably the leader who will mentor Anna probably.

Super-mam-te-moc:

The main romance in F2 will be between Idunn and Agnarr, my trusted Polish source says 😜. That’s why both sisters won’t get any serious development in a romance area. But it doesn’t mean that there won’t be some romantic undertones at all for them. And I am not talking about Nokk 😂 Nobody who really knows anything about F2 plot will spill it into internets the way that it would be easy for Disney to find them and sue them, so I believe that all of us are speculating at this point, including Frost.



Traduzione: La storia d'amore centrale sarà tra Idunn e Agnarr (i genitori di Anna ed Elsa). Le sorelle non hanno seri sviluppi nell'ambito del romanticismo, ma questo non significa che sono escluse del tutto sotto trame romantiche per loro. E non parlo del Nokk. Nessuno conosce la trama di Frozen 2 e molti stanno speculando a questo punto, incluso Frost[Harmonic]


Morale: stanno dicendo tutto e il contrario di tutto


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messaggio 10/6/2019, 22:12
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Il trailer sarà presentato domani all'interno del programma Good Morning America (orario di New York, dalle 7 alle 9 del mattino).
In Europa dovrebbe uscire tra le 13 e le 15.

Nuova trama:

Why was Elsa born with magical powers? The answer is calling her and threatening her kingdom. Together with Anna, Kristoff, Olaf and Sven, she'll set out on a dangerous but remarkable journey. In Frozen, Elsa feared her powers were too much for the world. In Frozen 2, she must hope they are enough.


Traduzione: Perché Elsa è nata con poteri magici? La risposta la sta chiamando e sta minacciando il suo regno. Assieme a Anna, Kristoff, Olaf e Sven, partirà per un pericoloso ma indimenticabile viaggio. In Frozen, Elsa temeva che i suoi poteri fossero troppo per il mondo. In Frozen 2, lei deve sperare che sono abbastanza.

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Primo piano di Anna ed Elsa:





Dalla trama pare un film incentrato sull'avventura e su un fattore leggermente "supereroistico" più che una classica fiaba. Vedremo come sarà.


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messaggio 11/6/2019, 10:10
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Infatti di "fiaba" credo non resterà niente..


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messaggio 11/6/2019, 14:33
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Nuovo trailer:

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messaggio 11/6/2019, 15:52
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Oh ....!!! Ci hanno degnato di un nuovo trailer! OH GOD, somatizzo (lo guardo tipo 10 volte) e poi commento.

Grazie Veui per il pronto aggiornamento!


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messaggio 11/6/2019, 21:55
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Qui il trailer in italiano:

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messaggio 12/6/2019, 12:29
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Boh non saprei cosa pensare di questo film sinceramente. Hanno talmente sfruttato il primo in tutti i modi possibili, che l'hype per questo sequel non lo sento per niente. Ed anche questi primi trailer mi lasciano un po' interdetto. Frozen che diventa Avengers anche no…
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messaggio 12/6/2019, 15:44
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Mi associo alle parole di Buffy, belle immagini ma a me lasciano abbastanza freddino, non fosse per la curiosità dell'elemento fantasy...Ma, di nuovo, sembra ricalcare stilemi precedentemente collaudati. Non posso che ripensare ad esempio al franchise di Trilli, specie al secondo capitolo, "Trilli e il tesoro perduto".


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Alla presentazione Disney al Festival dell'animazione tenutosi oggi ad Annecy si è trattato molto di Frozen 2...

Ecco cosa riportano vari siti:

Dal sito Variety:

Disney Debuts ‘Frozen 2’ Scenes and Story Details at Annecy

ANNECY, France — Disney Animation Studios, a long-time friend and collaborator of the Annecy Intl. Animation Festival, returned to the French town on Friday with three new shorts from its experimental animated shorts program Short Circuit, destined for Disney Plus, before providing an inside look at upcoming “Frozen 2.”

Held at Annecy’s lakeside Bonlieu Theater, “Frozen 2” head of animation Becky Bresee and head of effects animation Marlon West shared behind the scenes details for the making of Disney’s most anticipated sequel in years, telling stories, showing photos and screening two scenes, never-before-seen outside of Disney’s Burbank studios.

Before the first clip, Bresee and West explained that the film kicks off, as did the first, when Elsa and Anna are still young girls. Their father regales the girls with a lavish bedtime story from his youth, when the young prince himself visited an enchanted elemental forest, before something went horribly wrong and he was quickly brought back to Arendelle. Since then, there has been a disconnect between the people of the town and the elements: Air, fire, water and earth.

In the first scene screened on Friday morning, Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Kristoff and Sven are engaged in a less-than-fair game of charades. Anna starts, and successfully playacts the word villain, quickly guessed by the other players.

When Olaf heads to the front he declares the next round as boys vs. girls before adeptly transforming himself into a series of instantly recognizable forms, each guessed almost immediately by Kristoff and prompting Anna to accuse the two of cheating.

When it’s Elsa’s turn to mime, she is distracted by a haunting voice that only she can hear, and excuses herself to her room to be alone.

The scene ended there, but West and Bresee explained that Anna then checks in on Elsa, and the two fall asleep watching the northern lights, before Elsa is awoken by the mysterious voice. In a scene featured in the already-released trailer, Elsa heads outside and casts spells like she’s never done before, causing countless ice crystals covered in runes to be suspended in the sky over Arendelle.

The second scene was a longer cut of the one which starts the trailer. In it, Elsa runs headlong into dark and ominous water and massive crashing waves. The clip showed an intense and graphically-satisfying magical battle between Elsa and a horse-shaped water spirit on the spirit’s home turf.


Dal sito Hollywood Reporter:

Disney Reveals First Footage of 'Frozen 2' in Annecy

The team also world premiered three shorts that will play on Disney+ when it launches in November.
Just a day after Disney dropped the trailer for Frozen 2, it debuted first footage and artwork at the Annecy Animation Festival in France.

Head of animation Becky Bresee and head of effects Marlon West revealed that the story picks up three years after the ending of the first film. “It's an evolution and an expansion of the story of Frozen, and many of the questions raised in the first movie become the mysteries that our gang are trying to solve in this film,” said Bresee, who said the main question of the film is: “Why was Elsa born with her powers?”

“[It's] about two sisters trying to stay together while the world tries to tear them apart,” added West.

Key scenes revealed Elsa hearing a haunting sound from the forest, and key art showed her father telling her bedtime stories as a child. Bresee said the call was inspired by the ancient Swedish herding call Kulning.

Elsa's father relays a tale of a battle that happened in the forest long ago when the spirits of the forest faced off against the people of the kingdom. Now the group — including Elsa, her sister Anna, Kristof and snowman Olaf — must head deeper into the woods to find out about the past, putting them in danger.

Another key scene showed Elsa swimming deep into the ocean, turning a wave into ice and descending into the depths of a stormy sea, while a happier vignette showed the characters playing charades together, though Elsa is distracted because she cannot stop hearing the cries from the forest.

Bresee and West said that the film is still in production, with seven weeks of animation to be completed and 10 weeks of special effects. It's due out in France on Nov. 20 and the U.S. on Nov. 22. They revealed the French poster, which shows the four walking past a lake in bright sun, but the reflection in the lake is dark red.

Disney also world premiered three short films from its Short Circuit incubator. The first was Exchange Student from Natalie Nourigat, a fish-out-of-water story about the only human on an alien planet. The film had a watercolor on paper style, while the newsprint style story Just a Thought followed. That short, from director Brian Menz, explores what would happen if others could see comics-style “thought bubbles.”

The final short was from technical director Jerry Huynh, who told a story of grief and martial arts in a classic Chinese art style with swirling pinks and pale blues against a mountain backdrop. Huynh relayed an emotional speech and said the film, titled Flower in the Mirror, was inspired by the deaths of three family members within weeks of each other.

All three will debut on Disney+ when the streamer launches in November.





Video che racconta gli estratti mostrati ad Annecy:

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Traduzione degli estratti mostrati ad Annecy, dal sito Cinematographe:

- Prima Scena:

La prima ad essere stata mostrata è proprio la scena d’apertura del film, quando Elsa e Anna sono ancora delle bambine e il padre racconta loro una favola della buonanotte, la storia di un principe che si reca in una foresta incantata, dove però accade qualcosa di orribile e il principe viene riportato di fretta ad Arendelle. Da allora, c’è una disconnessione tra la gente della città e gli elementi: aria, fuoco, acqua e terra.

- Seconda Scena:

Nella seconda clip mostrata Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Kristoff e Sven sono impegnati a giocare a sciarada, ma Olaf e Kristoff sembrano imbrogliare le due ragazze. Quando arriva il turno di Elsa a giocare, la ragazza viene distratta da una voce ossessionante che solo lei può sentire, si scusa con gli altri della compagnia e si allontana per stare da sola.

- Terza Scena (non è riportata nel sito sopra ma sui siti francesi):

Elsa e il Nokk. E' la scena del teaser e del trailer, dura 3 minuti. Il Nokk cerca di imprigionare Elsa negli abissi (ed Elsa rischia di morire), è una scena drammatica che è stata interrotta proprio sul momento di maggior impatto. L'oceano si chiama Dark Sea (Mare Oscuro).


Domani vi scriviamo altri dettagli...


Qui la bellissima locandina francese:




Immagine autografata rilasciata ad Annecy:



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Beh si comincia a capire di cosa tratterà il film, molto bene, per ora sembra intrigante!!

Come ho fatto altre volte, per evitarmi spoiler sul film forse smetterò di leggere questa discussione fino a che non esce.. Vedo se riesco a resistere!


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Un po' di informazioni:

Dal sito People:

Annecy 2019: plus "sombre" et plus "épique", "La Reine des Neiges 2" se dévoile

Disney a dévoilé au festival d’animation d'Annecy les premières images de La Reine des Neiges 2. En attendant sa sortie le 20 novembre prochain, les responsables de l'animation et des effets spéciaux du prochain conte de Disney nous en livrent les secrets.
C'était l'une des séances les plus courues du festival d'Annecy: la présentation, en avant-première mondiale, de quelques scènes de La Reine des Neiges 2, suite très attendue du blockbuster de Disney sorti en 2013 et dont la chanson phare Libérée, délivrée est devenue un succès mondial. Attendu le 20 novembre prochain dans les salles obscures, le film reste mystérieux malgré les explications de deux membres essentiels de la distribution: le superviseur des effets spéciaux Marlon West et la cheffe de l’animation Becky Bresee.

L'intrigue tourne autour d'une forêt enchantée et de l’apparition de mystérieux esprits liés aux quatre éléments: feu, eau, vent et terre. Les premières images annoncent un film plus sombre, plus épique. Petite nouveauté: l’intrigue se déroulera cette fois-ci en automne, offrant la possibilité aux deux responsables de l’animation et des effets spéciaux d’explorer de nouvelles palettes de couleur, comme l’orange, après un premier film enneigé et givré. Rencontrés au festival d’Annecy, Marlon West et Becky Bresee commentent cinq scènes de La Reine des Neiges 2 et lèvent un coin du voile sur le prochain conte de Noël de Disney.

Les esprits


Marlon West: "Le Nokk [ou Nixe, un génie des eaux dans la mythologie nordique, NDLR] est un des plus grands défis que nous ayons eu à relever sur ce film, parce qu’il est présent sous et sur l’eau. Il doit se comporter comme un cheval tout en étant aussi un esprit. Il se désagrège, il se déplace dans l’eau sans forme puis retrouve son corps. Certaines parties de son corps agissent d’une certaine manière lorsqu’elles sont à l’air libre et d’une autre manière sous l’eau. C’est un cheval translucide qui nage sous l’eau: comment peut-on le voir?

Ces esprits en relation avec les éléments [feu, eau, vent, terre, NDLR] sont en réalité assez difficiles à animer car ils ne correspondent à aucun squelettage utilisé traditionnellement en animation [le squelettage est un procédé qui permet aux objets d’avoir un squelette, NDLR]. Le Nokk ressemble à un cheval, mais sa queue ne correspond pas au squelettage.

L’esprit du vent, de son côté, n’a pas de forme: quand ce personnage intervient, c’est un sacré défi, car il a une forte personnalité et nous devons l’animer de la manière la plus délicate et la plus subtile possible, sans dialogue, juste à travers des vêtements qui flottent, des feuilles qui s’envolent… L’esprit du feu, que l’on peut voir dans la bande-annonce, communique lui aussi d’une manière différente: il bouge comme des flammes, mais a été animé comme un être humain."

Pobbie


Marlon West: "Pobbie était déjà présent dans le premier film - presque tous les personnages du premier film font une apparition dans la suite. Ce qui est intéressant, avec ce personnage, c’est que le rigging [ou squelettage, NDLR] a été mis à jour. Les textures des personnages et le détail des cheveux sont désormais beaucoup plus sophistiqués que lorsque nous avons fait le premier film."

Becky Bresee: "L’enjeu est que ces personnages ressemblent le plus possible à ce qu’ils ont été il y a cinq ans tout en les améliorant graphiquement grâce aux nouvelles technologies qui ont été inventées entre les deux films."

Marlon West: "On apprend beaucoup en travaillant sur ce genre de films. Le studio a sorti quatre films [Les Nouveaux héros, Zootopie, Vaiana: La Légende du bout du monde, Ralph 2.0, NDLR] depuis la sortie de La Reine des Neiges et les avancées technologiques ont été très importantes, notamment pour tout ce qui touche à l’animation des cheveux."

Les cristaux


Marlon West: "C’est la magie créée par Elsa."

Becky Bresee: "Elle devient de plus en plus forte…"

Marlon West: "Ces symboles que l’on voit dans le film - et sur l’affiche du film - représentent les quatre éléments: feu, eau, vent, terre. Je sais qu’ils suscitent beaucoup d’interrogations sur Internet, mais je m’efforce de ne pas regarder les spéculations des fans! Ces cristaux émanent du même endroit que la neige et la glace d’Elsa. Elle n’a pas de réserve de glace: sa magie se déploie grâce à ce qui l’entoure".

La forêt magique


Becky Bresee: "C’est la forêt magique dans laquelle Elsa, Anna et Kristoff pénètrent. C’est là que se trouvent les éléments…"

Marlon West: "La forêt est enveloppée par un brouillard qui maintient prisonniers les gens à l’intérieur, mais aussi à l’extérieur. Le premier volet de La Reine des neiges se déroulait en réalité en été. Le royaume d’Arendelle était prisonnier d’un hiver éternel, donc le film était recouvert de glace et de neiges. Le deuxième volet se déroule cette fois en automne et nous avons donc exploré toute les gammes d’orange. Nous avons beaucoup travaillé pour que les décors correspondent à la fois à l’univers de La Reine des Neiges et à la Norvège - bien qu’Arendelle soit un royaume fictif, nous nous inspirons de la réalité pour concevoir notre monde. Dans le cas de La Reine des Neiges, nous nous sommes donc beaucoup inspirés de la Norvège, et notamment de la flore que l’on peut y trouver. Directeur artistique des deux Reine des Neiges [et de beaucoup classiques de Disney comme Pocahontas, NDLR], Michael Giaimo nous a beaucoup aidés. C’est un génie pour tout ce qui est des couleurs et des formes. Il excelle pour trouver la couleur parfaite pour raconter l’histoire."

Le mystérieux brouillard


Marlon West: "Nous voulions que ce brouillard soit à la fois sympathique et un peu menaçant. C’était notre plus gros défi sur cette scène. Nous essayons toujours de mêler ces deux aspects pour surprendre les spectateurs et les spectatrices. Anna et Elsa sont comme attirées par cet endroit. Ce mur de brouillard laisse entrer les personnages puis se referment sur elles… Que trouve-t-on de l’autre côté? On nous a souvent demandé si La Reine des Neiges 2 était plus sombre que le premier film. La réponse courte est 'oui', bien que le film ne soit pas non plus plus beaucoup plus sombre que le premier film, qui contenait déjà des moments assez tristes. Ce deuxième volet aura des scènes à la fois émouvantes et hilarantes."

Becky Bresee: "Ce mélange fonctionne très bien. Vous aurez l’impression de voir le premier Reine des Neiges! Le deuxième a juste plus d’envergure, il est plus épique! Et il y a six charmantes nouvelles chansons, toujours écrites par le duo [oscarisé] Kristin et Robert Lopez."



Traduzione in inglese (per chi non conosce il francese):

The spirits

Marlon West: "The Nokk [or Nixe, a water genius in Norse mythology] is one of the biggest challenges we've faced on this film, because it's present under and on the water. He must behave like a horse while also being a spirit. It disintegrates, moves into the shapeless water and then regains its body. Some parts of his body act in a certain way when they are in the open and in another way underwater. It is a translucent horse that swims underwater: how can we see it?

These spirits in relation to the elements [fire, water, wind, earth] are actually quite difficult to animate because they do not correspond to any rigging traditionally used in animation [rigging is a process that allows objects to have a skeleton]. The Nokk looks like a horse, but its tail does not correspond to the rigging.

The spirit of the wind, on the other hand, has no shape: when this character intervenes, it is quite a challenge, because he has a strong personality and we must animate him in the most delicate and subtle way possible, without dialogue, just through clothes that float , leaves that fly away... The spirit of fire, which can be seen in the trailer, also communicates in a different way: it moves like flames, but has been animated like a human being."

Pabbie

Marlon West: "Pabbie was already present in the first film - almost all the characters from the first film make an appearance in the sequel. What's interesting about this character is that the rigging [or flushing] has been updated. The textures of the characters and the detail of the hair are now much more sophisticated than when we made the first film."

Becky Bresee: "The challenge is that these characters look as much as possible as they were five years ago while improving them graphically thanks to the new technologies that were invented between the two films."

Marlon West: "You learn a lot from working on these kinds of films. The studio has released four films [Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana, Ralph Breaks the Internet] since the release of Frozen and advances in technology have been very important, especially for everything related to hair animation."

The crystals

Marlon West: "It's the magic created by Elsa."

Becky Bresee: "She's getting stronger and stronger..."

Marlon West: "These symbols that we see in the film - and on the poster of the film - represent the four elements: fire, water, wind, earth. I know they raise a lot of questions on the Internet, but I try not to watch the fan speculations! These crystals emanate from the same place as Elsa's snow and ice. She has no ice reserve: her magic unfolds through what surrounds her."

The magic forest

Becky Bresee: "This is the magical forest in which Elsa, Anna and Kristoff enter. That's where the elements are...

Marlon West: "The forest is shrouded in a fog that keeps people trapped inside, but also outside. The first part of Frozen was actually held in the summer. The kingdom of Arendelle was trapped in an eternal winter so the film was covered with ice and snow. The second part takes place this time in the fall, so we have explored all the orange ranges. We have worked hard to make the sets match both the snow queen and Norway - although Arendelle is a fictional kingdom, we draw on reality to design our world. In the case of Frozen, we were very inspired by Norway, especially the flora that can be found there. Artistic director of the two Frozen films [and many Disney classics like Pocahontas], Michael Giaimo has helped us a lot. He's a genius for all colors and shapes. He excels at finding the perfect color to tell the story."

The mysterious fog

Marlon West: "We wanted this fog to be both friendly and a little threatening. That was our biggest challenge on this stage. We always try to mix these two aspects to surprise the spectators. Anna and Elsa are as attracted to this place. This wall of fog lets the characters in and then close on them... What is on the other side? We have often been asked if Frozen 2 is darker than the first film. The short answer is 'yes', although the film is also not much darker than the first film, which already contained some rather sad moments. This second part will have scenes that are both moving and hilarious."

Becky Bresee: "This mixture works very well. You'll feel like you're seeing the first Frozen! The second has just more scope, it is more epic! And there are six lovely new songs, always written by the [Oscar-winning] duo Kristin and Robert Lopez."


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News:

* Gli attori di Broadway Jessie Mueller e Keala Settle daranno la voce a due personaggi del film.

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Se volete sentire due strofe della nuova canzone di Elsa, Into the Unknown... ecco qua:

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Al CineEurope di Barcellona sono stati presentati due estratti del film tra cui la canzone integrale Into the Unknown.

Dal sito DeadLine:

Two scenes from Frozen 2, the sequel to the highest-grossing animated film of all time, which just dropped a trailer last week, were further unveiled. Release begins November 20 offshore and November 22 domestically.


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They saw never-before-seen clips and heard what promises to be the banner song from November’s Frozen II, “Into the Unknown,”



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messaggio 26/6/2019, 0:09
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Alcune informazioni da chi ha avuto modo di seguire il Festival di Annecy e apprendere qualcosa in più sul film:

- Arendelle est décrite comme détruite après la libération des cristaux.
- Agnarr dit avoir été observé par une créature mystérieuse (le Nokk?) lors de sa venue dans les Terres Enchantées.
- Olaf en est arrivé à la conclusion après 3 années d'étude que la vie est permanente et reste toujours la même, ce qui le déçoit car il a toujours été convaincu qu'elle devait évoluer.
- Elsa voudrait l'inverse et que rien ne change.
- Elsa essaie d'éviter dans un premier temps la voix étrange qui l'appelle, des jours passent après la partie de charades.
- Elsa reçoit la vision de formes représentant les éléments.
- Olaf pense que Sven parle pour de vrai et n'a toujours pas capté que Kristoff fait sa voix.
- L'imitation d'Elsa par Olaf, mouvements de hanche inclus, est un clin d'oeil à Let It Go.
- Hans est cité dans le film mais on ignore toujours s'il aura un rôle ou non.
- Les aurores boréales seront importantes.


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messaggio 30/6/2019, 23:43
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Un articolo interessante su Frozen 2 e una riflessione su un probabile cattivo per il film (se ci sarà o no, se necessario o meno)…

Dal sito CBR:

Does Frozen 2 Even Need a Villain?

Disney animated movies have given us some of cinema’s best love-to-hate-them villains, from Snow White's Evil Queen to The Lion King's Scar and The Little Mermaid's Ursula the Sea Witch. This is partly because Disney movies have long been -- and still are -- rooted in fairy stories and folklore tales that deal in moral absolutes. These villains are painted in the broadest theatrical strokes. One minute they're belting out a riotous show tune and the next they're giving kids nightmares with a pointed glare or a cackling laugh.

We love Disney villains, and Disney knows we love Disney villains. That's why the studio built an entire franchise around their villains' kids, The Descendants, and why Disney has made some of its biggest villains the star of their own solo movies like Maleficent and Cruella De Vil.

However, while these live-action offshoots are finding success with the company's back catalogue of "legacy" characters, the current renaissance era of Disney animated movies have paradoxically found success by doing the exact opposite. Instead of relying on a traditional, good versus evil binary, the studio has been plundering the grey areas, at the cost of, for better or worse, creating new, memorable villains.

The Hans twist in the first Frozen movie is a prime example: The power-hungry prince that broke Anna's heart was little more than a plot device. The same can be said for Moana's angry goddess, Te Kā. The film simply took the Hans device and inverted it, arguably to much greater effect, some would argue.

This isn’t entirely Disney’s fault. It’s representative of a gradual change in the larger cultural attitude towards fictional villainy, which has evolved beyond favoring cartoonish stereotypes to wanting to see empathetic, misguided outsiders. Thanos can wipe out half of all life everywhere and inspire real-world sympathizers. Pennywise the Dancing Clown and the Babadook are shipped as lovers. The Joker is a kooky heartthrob. Venom was 2018's best romantic-comedy. Do we like villains or do we like like villains? It's both! And both are perfectly fine.

In step with this, Disney shifted away from its original plan to retell a faithful version of Hans Christian Andersen’s The Snow Queen, instead reorienting Queen Elsa to be the misunderstood antihero of 2013's Frozen rather than a child-nabbing frost hag.

In another era, Elsa could have been this generation's Maleficent, but it's no longer fashionable to equate magic with unlikable, evil witches and old crones. Plus, Angelina Jolie is currently this generation's Maleficent. Things we don’t understand are things we're now taught to embrace, which is practically spelled out by Disney when Elsa is told to "travel into the unknown" in the first full trailer for Frozen 2.

There could well be some kind of physical adversary waiting for Elsa in the "unknown," but does Elsa really need one? For that matter, does any new Disney leading lady? The point we're at not only tracks with our modern love affair with baddies and antiheroes, but it also tracks with the natural trajectory of Disney heroines.

Snow White sang for her "prince to come" in 1937 and Sleeping Beauty snoozed her way through the final battle with Maleficent in 1959.

In Disney's '90s Golden Era, and Princesses Jasmine and Ariel emancipated themselves to pursue men of their choosing. While Mulan trashed gender norms with a haircut and an arsenal of fireworks, Meg told Hercules that not every "damsel in distress" needs the hand of chivalry extended their way. Belle was kind of patronizing and fell prey to Stockholm Syndrome, so let's just chalk her up to a bump in the road.

In recent years, we've gotten a new generation of Disney heroes with Merida, Moana and Elsa, heroines with much internal agency of their own that have little time or need for either love interests or proper villains. Instead, they go on quests of valor and soul-searching that lead them to pursue the kinds of fantastic adventures that only male characters traditionally get to have.

Between journeying into a mystical, dangerous land and continuing to reconcile with her strange and powerful abilities, it seems like Elsa already has enough drama on her plate to deal with. If it's a choice between another forgettable Hans or some more abstract, thematic barrier to Elsa achieving her goals, we'll take the latter.


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Nuova trama in un libro (Frozen 2: Forest of Shadow):

Dal sito Scholastic.com.au:

After a strange illness strikes Arendelle, Anna discovers a secret room in the castle and incants a magic spell hoping to cure the sickness. Instead, a sinister wolf arrives, threatening to destroy the peaceful kingdom. Anna, Elsa and their friends embark on a thrilling quest to save Arendelle.


Un lupo? sarà il Lupo bianco della mitologia nordica?


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Qui potete vedere meglio i vestiti nuovi di Anna ed Elsa:






Le registrazioni audio di Josh Gad per il personaggio di Olaf sono terminate oggi:




Olaf sarà un erudito? un filosofo?





Qui una video presentazione:

Dal sito Disney Movie Rewards:

You'll be the coolest one around. Enter now for a chance to win a private screening of Frozen 2 for you and your kingdom:

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News:

Le proiezioni - test finali sono cominciate ieri.
Durante una delle sessioni, Chris Buck avrebbe dichiarato che il romanzo Ozma Principessa di Oz è stata una fonte di ispirazione. Il finale è stato descritto come "terrific" dagli spettatori che hanno avuto la fortuna di assistere alla proiezione.

Altra news:

In un'intervista, la cantante Aurora ha fornito un dettaglio in più sulla sua partecipazione al film. Lo mettiamo sotto spoiler così chi non vuole non legge: Quando le è stato chiesto che canterà anche all'interno del film, ha risposto che la si potrà sentire interpretare il vento. Lo spirito sarà dunque, come mostrano le immagini dei prodotti derivati, un forte alleato che chiede ad Elsa di raggiungerlo


Ulteriore news:

Nokk uses the power of the ocean to guard the secrets that she needs to discover. This will be one of the many challenges that wait for Elsa

Traduzione: Il Nokk usa i poteri dell'oceano per conservare i segreti che lei (Elsa) deve scoprire. Questo sarà una delle molte sfide che attendono Elsa.


Commento: Ozma di Oz come ispirazione? (per il primo film l'ispirazione era Wicked, sempre ambientato nel mondo di Oz) che vorrà dire? sapete chi è Ozma e il suo vissuto nei vari romanzi di Oz (è una donna che per la maggior parte del tempo è stata trasformata in uomo... sarà questo che vorrà dire? o altro?)...


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Beh in Ozma of Oz è già una ragazza, il libro che allude all'identità sessuale è Il meraviglioso paese di Oz. Probabile si riferisca al fatto (decisamente più probabile per Frozen II) che la storia di Dorothy (Elsa?) si sposti per la prima volta fuori dal regno di Oz (Arendelle?), con vecchi e nuovi amici (nel romanzo avevamo Tic Toc), per scoprire tutto un altro regno (nel romanzo Evlandia), popolato da creature e regnanti differenti (nel romanzo i rotanti, la principessa Langwidere, il Re degli Gnomi e il suo mondo sotterraneo). Insomma, niente di nuovo all'orizzonte e ben chiarito dal trailer.

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CITAZIONE (Daydreamer @ 12/7/2019, 1:25) *
Beh in Ozma of Oz è già una ragazza, il libro che allude all'identità sessuale è Il meraviglioso paese di Oz. Probabile si riferisca al fatto (decisamente più probabile per Frozen II) che la storia di Dorothy (Elsa?) si sposti per la prima volta fuori dal regno di Oz (Arendelle?), con vecchi e nuovi amici (nel romanzo avevamo Tic Toc), per scoprire tutto un altro regno (nel romanzo Evlandia), popolato da creature e regnanti differenti (nel romanzo i rotanti, la principessa Langwidere, il Re degli Gnomi e il suo mondo sotterraneo). Insomma, niente di nuovo all'orizzonte e ben chiarito dal trailer.

Come il film Disney Ritorno ad Oz w00t.gif


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